A Midsummer Night’s Dream at the Evergreen Cultural Centre

Last night I took my young daughters down to the Evergreen Cultural Centre for the Monster Theatre presentation of A Midsummer Night’s Dream.

evergreen cultural centre

The production was geared towards children and it was cool to see how readily kids broke through the fourth wall that traditionally separates the players on the stage from the audience.

As a “seasoned” theatre goer, I tend to see the fourth wall as an impenetrable wall. So that even when the players on the stage look into the audience and ask a question, I realize I am not to reply. Nor is anyone in the theatre to reply. Unless you are a kid at a Monster Theatre presentation.

Last night, the players on the stage called into the audience and the kids replied. It was a somewhat risky move that worked well.

The kids replied when expected and became quiet observers for the other parts of the show.

As for the play, it is worth noting that it was not actually a performance of A Midsummer Night’s Dream but a play about the play of A Midsummer Night’s Dream. Confusing? It wasn’t. It was actually really neat. Although not a “tight” performance, it was a very entertaining performance.

The performance had two women and one man on the stage. These three people were able to change from one character to another in a blink of the eye. One second she was Demetruis and then Hermia and then Lysander and then Helena.

The characters changed personas with a simple twist of the wrist to change the mask but more importantly, it was not just the mask that changed. The voice, the demeanour, and the body movements were also changed instantaneously. It was really amusing to see the characters changing so quickly. The best part was how the quick role changes kept the kids in the audience transfixed. As was I!!

I will definitely be taking my kids to check out more of the Monster Theatre productions. Especially if they come back to my local theatre, the Evergreen Cultural Centre.

 

Cavalia Presents Odysseo in the Olympic Village

Although I have not yet found time in my hectic family schedule for us to attend a performance of Odysseo, a re-imagining of equestrian and theatrical arts, a couple of my friends have been to the show and they both said this is a MUST SEE performance.

I have to admit, I am amazed by the images I have seen of the performance so far. So what is Odysseo? And where is it?

Odysseo
Photo Credit – Jak Wonderly

Well, Odysseo’s White Big Top – the largest touring tent on the planet – was erected in Vancouver’s Olympic Village in preparation of Odysseo’s second and final run in Vancouver.

Cavalia
Normand Latourelle of Cavalia

The $30 million theatrical production imagined by Normand Latourelle opened on January 29th with matinee and evening performances now scheduled through February 26th.

Covering a surface area of 5,425 square metres, the size of the BC Lions football field, Odysseo’s impressive White Big Top is a mix of art, technology and advanced engineering.

Cavalia
Photo Credit – Andrew Miller

In order to break through the limitations of standard big top tents, allow for more flexibility in the performance area, and to give the horses the space they need to feel free and comfortable, Normand Latourelle, Cavalia’s artistic director and founder, partnered with specialized companies in Europe and Canada to create this high-tech structure.

Odysseo
Photo Credit Dan Harper

This unprecedented structure is also composed of several exceptional features like the grandiose stage – larger than the Rogers Arena ice rink – that enables large-scale, cutting-edge creative performances.

Odysseo
Photo Credit – Dan Harper

Surrounded by bleachers with 2,074 seats, the 1,626 square metres stage requires 10,000 tons of stone, earth and sand to create so that it offers a vast space of freedom where 65 horses and 48 artists can display their intimate collaboration.

Odysseo
Photo Credit Jak Wonderly

To help immerse the audience in the magical world of Odysseo, images of the most beautiful landscapes from around the world are projected throughout the show onto a 780 square metre screen.

Odysseo
Photo Credit – Jak Wonderly

Never afraid of using unparalleled technical, visual, and sound infrastructure, the Odysseo creative team has invented a feast for the eyes, a multi-dimensional spectacle with staggering effects created by state-of-the-art scenery.

Odysseo
Photo Credit – Jak Wonderly

During the breathtaking finale, a vertiginous virtual waterfall overhangs a lake made possible by an underground drain system that releases 150,000 litres of recycled water onto the stage, in which horses, riders, and artists join to frolic, leaving behind them the traces of their splashes—and an astonished audience.

Tickets are priced from $29.50 to $139.50 + applicable taxes and fees.

The “Rendez-Vous” package is the deal that I am discussing with Sweetheart. That package offers the best seats in the house, exquisite full buffet dining before the show, open bar, desserts during intermission and an exclusive visit of the stables after the show.

This unique VIP experience takes place in a tent alongside the White Big Top. The Rendez-Vous package prices range from $129.50 to $209.50 + applicable taxes and fees.

Special pricing and packages also available for groups, children (2-12), juniors (13-17) and seniors (65+).

You can follow Cavalia’s latest developments at

I hope to see you at a performance!

For the Pleasure of Seeing Her Again

Although I am not able to attend the Gateway Theatre presentation of For the Pleasure of Seeing Her Again, I have a trusted friend going in my stead who will report back to me on how the show worked.

In brief, this play, an audience favourite at Canada’s Magnetic North Theatre Festival in Ottawa, is a funny, nostalgic and bittersweet comedy in which acclaimed Quebec playwright Michel Tremblay pays homage to his mother, a remarkable and larger-than-life woman.

The Narrator (Kevin Loring) flashes back to different stages in his life reflecting on stories of his feisty mother, Nana (Margo Kane) and their remarkable relationship over the years. The audience has the pleasure of watching these two discuss everything, from misguided childhood pranks to overbearing relatives to their favourite books.

As their conversation subtly transforms from affectionate repartee to tender expressions of regret and reconciliation, For the Pleasure of Seeing Her Again reveals itself not just as a great piece of dramatic theatre—but as a rare and inspiring act of transcendence that allows Tremblay to speak one last time to his late mother.

There are a number of dates left in this shows run at the Gateway Theatre in Richmond, BC – this Wednesday to Saturday night. You can get your tickets for this performance from the Gateway Theatre website.

 

Cook Your Life – A One Woman Show

Although I have been going to the theatre for many, many years it is hard to believe that I’ve never seen a one-man or one woman show. Yesterday evening that all changed.

I went out to Richmond to the Gateway Theatre Pacific Festival where I saw a one-woman show called “Cook Your Life”.

May May Chan
May May Chan

Let me go straight to the bottom line right away, it was an incredible performance.

Yes, many times I felt like Bill Murray in the movie “Lost in Translation” – remember the scene in that movie where the Japanese speaking director would verbally rip into another member of the production team who would then turn to Bill Murray’s character and say something like, “Look more directly into the camera.”

Murray, with a puzzled look on his face asked, “Is that all he said?”

Last night there were times when I felt like that. The long streams of Cantonese dialogue by May May (May May Chan, the one woman tour de force behind this show is from Hong Kong) would be summarized onto the sur-title screens into something as simple as “she will regret this decision.”

I couldn’t understand how these long and very animated speeches by Chan could be distilled down to 4, 5 or six words and yet when I asked my Cantonese speaking friend who attended the show with me if that was an accurate depiction of what was going on, she said in “essence yes.”

The really cool thing about the show for me was that although it was basically all done in Cantonese and I couldn’t understand 99.99% of what was being said (I clearly heard her say “whiskey” at least twice!) I did understand the story.

I am not going to retell the story or the plot but for me the truly beautiful thing about this show was Chan’s ability to change from one character to another in the time that she could walk across the stage.

She enters the theater as an over-the-top, loud, and uncontrollable tour de force. She continues in this role for sometime and then she “invites” her friends on to the stage.

May May Chan 2
May May Chan 2

With the addition of a coat and hat she suddenly becomes a woman falling in love and then being heartbroken and then turning into a drunken mess.

When she drops the hat and coat, she is instantly back to being the loud and boisterous May May Chan, host of “Cook Your Life” and best friend to her friend in need.

I completely loved this show.

When “Cook Your Life” ended we had a brief intermission before the second one-man show, “MeChat” began.

“MeChat” was some kind of a strange and quite puzzling performance by one man on the stage with a fake massive cell phone on his shoulder.

Unlike “Cook Your Life” I wasn’t exactly sure what was going on in “MeChat”. Other than the fact that he was constantly on the phone talking, messaging, doing a Facebook and FaceTime thing. I think at some point he died and then travelled into some quasi-cyber-heaven-like-world where he was able to communicate with people through his mobile phone.

However, I could be totally wrong.

Whatever happened to him, it got very surreal and it was quite spooky and although I didn’t really know what was going on I was totally intrigued by the strange music and the dancing and movement on the stage.

Perhaps that doesn’t sound like much of a recommendation, however I thoroughly enjoyed both shows. Yes, I did enjoy “Cook Your Life” more so than “MeChat” however, both shows are very much worth seeing.

The Pacific Gateway Theatre Festival is only on for a few more days so if you want to see this show or other shows that are part of the festival, act sooner rather than later.

To learn more about the Gateway Theatre Pacific Festival you can visit their website.

Gateway Theatre Festival’s – Cook Your Life

Following last year’s ground-breaking inaugural year, Gateway Theatre is thrilled to bring back the Gateway Theatre Pacific Festival, showcasing in Richmond BC the best contemporary theatre Hong Kong has to offer.

One of the theatre events in the Gateway Theatre Pacific Festival that is of particular interest to me combines two of my passions: food and live theatre. It’s a show called Cook Your Life and it will be taking place from September 17 – 19, 2015 during the Gateway Theatre Pacific Festival.

May May Chan
May May Chan

In the Cook Your Life show, solo performer May Chan cooks live onstage while she draws funny and insightful parallels between food and relationships.  The show incorporates a 4-D theatre approach where the audience can see, hear, smell, and taste the experience!

The multi-sensory show revolves around a woman whose compromises in the kitchen (her partner’s love for spicy food is one she doesn’t share) extend to her relationships as well.

Cooking live on stage while interacting with the audience, MayMay makes funny and insightful analogies between food and love, inviting us to taste the emotion in her food while challenging us to experience the bitter along with the sweet.

This lighthearted (and mouth-watering) play is a thoughtful reflection on the complications modern women face when it comes to love and relationships.

Cook Your Life!
Cook Your Life!

Cook Your Life is a comedic solo show created, produced, directed and performed by MayMay Chan, who joined Bravo Theatre as Artistic Director in 2003.

May is also a seasoned cook herself, with her own cooking channel in Hong Kong.

Cook Your Life, produced by Bravo Theatre, and co-produced by Take It Easy Theatre can be seen September 17 – 19 at 8pm on the Gateway MainStage. Tickets to the Cook Your Life performance can be obtained by visiting the Gateway Theatre’s website.

“Cook Your Life” at the Gateway Theatre

Following last year’s ground-breaking inaugural year, Gateway Theatre is thrilled to bring back the Gateway Theatre Pacific Festival, showcasing in Richmond BC the best contemporary theatre Hong Kong has to offer.

One of the theatre events in the Gateway Theatre Pacific Festival that is of particular interest to me combines two of my passions: food and live theatre. It’s a show called Cook Your Life and it will be taking place from September 17 – 19, 2015 during the Gateway Theatre Pacific Festival.

May May Chan
May May Chan

In the Cook Your Life show, solo performer May Chan cooks live onstage while she draws funny and insightful parallels between food and relationships.  The show incorporates a 4-D theatre approach where the audience can see, hear, smell, and taste the experience!

The multi-sensory show revolves around a woman whose compromises in the kitchen (her partner’s love for spicy food is one she doesn’t share) extend to her relationships as well.

Cooking live on stage while interacting with the audience, MayMay makes funny and insightful analogies between food and love, inviting us to taste the emotion in her food while challenging us to experience the bitter along with the sweet.

This lighthearted (and mouth-watering) play is a thoughtful reflection on the complications modern women face when it comes to love and relationships.

Cook Your Life!
Cook Your Life!

Cook Your Life is a comedic solo show created, produced, directed and performed by MayMay Chan, who joined Bravo Theatre as Artistic Director in 2003.

May is also a seasoned cook herself, with her own cooking channel in Hong Kong.

Cook Your Life, produced by Bravo Theatre, and co-produced by Take It Easy Theatre can be seen September 17 – 19 at 8pm on the Gateway MainStage. Tickets to the Cook Your Life performance can be obtained by visiting the Gateway Theatre’s website.

Jurassic World: A Worthy Sequel?

Hello everybody, it’s the Movie Dude Toth laughing and scratching at ya once again, and surprise, surprise…there is no two month gap in between my reviews this time! 🙂

Anyhow, on to the matter at hand which is the film Jurassic World. The big question is can the movie re-capture some of magic of the original Jurassic Park? Also, can Chris Pratt continue to carry a movie on his own? The answer to both those questions is….almost and perhaps yes, if he had a better script to work with.

Jurassic World is not a bad movie, although there are some parts of it where it clearly is a bad movie.

If you are a fan of dinosaurs and Chris Pratt you will probably like this movie. If you are not a fan of explosions, dinosaurs screeching, and humans acting stupid then you will not like this movie.

Personally, I thought it was a fun popcorn flick but if you have the choice between this and Mad Max….well the answer should be obvious but if you need more of a hint I’d go with the one that focuses on blood and chrome!

Let’s talk seriously here, most people are going to this movie to see thunder lizards wreak havoc with frail humans who to these creatures are basically annoying insects.

The plot is a secondary consideration and people want to see dinos attacking humans and other dinos. Well on this note the movie delivers and goes gangbusters with the dinotific mayhem!

Unfortunately, if you’re looking for smart dialogue (and a smart story) and a tense thrill ride, the movie does not deliver. No one is more upset about this than me.

The Movie Dude Toth wants every movie that comes out to be awesome, especially ones that centre around human/dinosaur conflict. Alas, except for a few cool action sequences this is not to be with Jurassic World.

How’s the acting you ask? OK to good. If you’re looking for a Starlord encore from Pratt, you will not get it. Bryce Dallas Howard is good, but she doesn’t have a great story or great lines to work with. The two children in the film are typical children characters in this type of movie. They need rescuing and they scream here and there. Oh yes, they also have some emotional conflict to overcome involving their family.

In conclusion, if you are a die hard dinosaur fan then you will like this movie so you should see it.

However, if you liked the original film’s near perfect blend of slightly corny sci-fi, great acting, humour, and amazing special effects then you will be disappointed.

Hey it’s your money, I’m just trying to give you a basic rating based on my not so humble opinion based on years of watching and analyzing movies.

This is the MOvie DUde TOth signing off till later this week when I’ll be tackling the new Pixar film Inside Out.

Toth out!

Mad Max; Fury Road – Best Film of the Year

Hello ya’ll, it’s been a while but I’m back to spout more film wisdom onto all the unwashed masses of film goers out there. That’s right, it’s the MovieDude Toth coming at ya!

So today I’m reviewing a little film that I saw almost two months ago called Mad Max;

Random picture for you to look at
Random picture for you to look at
Fury Road, hitherto be called Mad Max 4. You may ask; is this a direct sequel, prequel, reboot, or some other crap?! Well to be honest with you it is a quasi-sequel removing Mel Gibson (Max in the original trilogy) and adding Tom Hardy(as Max) and Charlize Theron (as Furiosa).

As usual, NO SPOILERS!!!!! from me! Well, to all the former students who may be reading this (probably 1 or 2 LOL), here comes my topic sentence….! Mad Max 4 manages to thrill, evoke strong emotions, put you in the driver’s seat for a visceral action extravaganza, and be the BEST FILM of the YEAR so far!

I will now explain why I feel so strongly about the movie. Perhaps it is because I am a fan of the original Mad Max and Mad Max 2 (3 had some good ideas and is worth maybe one watch) but I have to say I was blown away by what was onscreen in this movie.

CGI, are you kidding me? Not too much overall, and what was CGI was mostly to remove wires, ropes, and change daytime scenes into night time scenes. Oh yes, also a massive flippin’ sandstorm. Almost every frame of this movie looks like a beautiful oil painting. This is ART, people. Run out and see this movie.

The plot? It is so simple that I will not spoil it for you save this: people are trying to survive in a post-apocalyptic future where oil, weapons, water, and viable females (ones that can still reproduce) have become the four commodities that these barbarians fight over.

Max is still out there trying to survive, but this is not just his story…he just happens to get taken for the ride, literally!

The director is the same person who directed the original 3 Mad Max films, then he went on to direct some of my favourite films of all time including Babe, Babe: Pig in the City and then some lesser children’s efforts like Happy Feet and Happy Feet 2.

I was a bit nervous about his return to adult action oriented cinema. But I shouldn’t have been worried, because as I’ve been telling everyone I know, he takes all modern action film makers to school and shows them how it’s done!

Do not hesitate to see this film! Run out right now and buy your tickets before exciting but ultimately lame popcorn fests take over the screens this summer. Dinosaurs are cool, and I will deal with them in my next review, but as Immorten Joe from Mad Max 4 would say they are ultimately just….”MEDIOCRE!!!”

Why are you still reading this, it’s a hot Canada Day! You should be in cold water, shade, or better yet in a air conditioned theatre watching Mad Max: Fury Road!!!!

THe MOvie DUde TOth Out!!!!

Avengers: Age of Ultron the Best Marvel Movie Yet!

Hey there, it’s The Movie Dude Toth back with another spellbinding review. Sorry for the long absence but work (those darned kids) and home (those darned kids) got in the way. I actually do have another review on the way of the latest Bill Murray vehicle.

Anyhow to the matter at hand….I said it in the title and I stand behind it! Joss Whedon has managed to make the best Marvel film to date with Avengers: Age of Ultron.

You may be saying: why do you say this? How are you an expert on movies anyways? Well, gather close and pull out a piece of paper and a pencil cause “I’m about to take you to school!” (Thank you Dr. Evil :))

Before I begin, I’ll preface my praise with the disclaimer that I am a Marvel fan but a very picky one at that. Here is how I rank the Marvel films to date:

  1. Age of Ultron
  2. Iron Man
  3. Guardians of Peace (oops sorry Sony hackers), I meant to say – Guardians of the Galaxy
  4. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
  5. The Avengers
  6. Captain America: The First Avenger
  7. Iron Man 3
  8. Thor: The Dark World
  9. Thor
  10. The Incredible Hulk
  11. Iron Man 2

When I saw the first Iron Man back in May 2008 I knew that I had just seen something really special. It captivated me in a way that only the best movies I have seen in my lifetime can. I knew I had to see it again immediately.

I felt the same way walking out of Ultron.

This is the point in the Marvel films that I have been waiting for. There is no introduction or flashback to catch moviegoers up on what they missed. The movie jumps right into the action showing us what the Avengers can do as a team. This is perhaps the best action sequence in the film.

Some critics have complained that because the best action sequence is at the beginning, that the rest of the movie is a let down.

To quote Tony Stark: “I respectfully disagree.” My appetite was whetted for more from that point on. I saw Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Black Widow, Hulk, Hawkeye, and SHIELD operatives working in unison to take down some people.

I will try to make this review spoiler free hence the “some people” description of who the Avengers were attacking.

As a studio, Marvel is slowly achieving many comic book fans’ dreams by making a cohesive universe for their characters to play in. All the potential of Tony Stark and his capabilities that were brought up in the first Iron Man have come to fruition in Ultron literally and figuratively.

He realizes that someday a threat will come from our world or some other world that the Avengers will not be able to deal with. So what does he do?

With the help of another brilliant scientific mind and something else (no spoilers allowed), he creates the Ultron program to bring about world peace.

If you have seen even a single trailer then you will know that Ultron turns out to be Stark’s own Frankenstein monster. The rest of the film involves the Avengers trying to find a way to stop Ultron.

There is also some great character development amidst all the heroic fighting. Black Widow and Bruce Banner (aka the Hulk) have a lot of personal demons to fight before they can really help in the battle against Ultron.

Hawkeye is given a great back story and adds a lot of humanity to the fantastical proceedings. Scarlett Johansson and Mark Ruffalo have a nice chemistry together. Jeremy Renner is given more of a chance to shine here because he is not possessed by Loki the entire time as in the first Avengers.

James Spader does a great job as the voice of Ultron. He is snarky, angry, bitter, jealous, and dangerous all within the span of 30 seconds sometimes. I laughed out loud at several of his lines including this exchange with his creator where Stark asks Ultron what a rare element called vibranium is for and without missing a beat Ultron says: “I’m glad you asked that, because I wanted to take this time to explain my evil plan…”

Even though some of the subject matter is dark, I was laughing throughout Ultron and appreciated all the one liners and witty banter between hero and hero and from heroes to villains. In saying all this, the action sequences are nothing to snooze at.

I saw new and exciting action sequences that I had not seen before on film. The action was framed in a different way and was superior to the first Avengers film. There were some ideas that I had seen before in other superhero films but they were approached in a fresh way that made them seem more original.

There is a fight between two Avengers that is huge and city shaking. As I mentioned, the opening sequence is amazing and the finale achieves a certain kind of “lift-off”.

There is a mid-movie chase sequence involving a semi-trailer, motorcycle, and supersonic jet that is also eye-popping. Of course all of this would not matter at all if the stakes weren’t so high.

How does a movie raise the stakes so that the audience really cares about what is happening to the characters? Well in the Marvel Cinematic Universe they have nine other films that have developed the characters and story arcs.

Also, in Age of Ultron the writers have accomplished this by continuing to develop their characters in interesting ways.

There are new characters introduced that are a bit strange, but because the whole movie feels like you are flipping through the pages of a comic book these new people do not seem so out of place.

Robert Downey Jr., Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth and Samuel L. Jackson continue to give great performances even though they are not given as much individual story time.

It is also interesting to note that the value of each human life is of great importance to all of the heroes. They are willing to sacrifice their lives to save the lives of others, and this is made very clear in the final action sequence of the film.

Avengers: Age of Ultron continues the Marvel tradition of making movies that are fun and intelligent. Unlike other big special effects blockbusters (looking at you Transformers!), Ultron shows that all those computer generated pixels on screen can make you feel thrilled and captivated.

Many strong performances anchored by a solid screenplay and excellent special effects helped to transport me away from my seat and into the movie. Is there any more I could ask from a summer blockbuster?

If you are a Marvel fan, run out and see this on the biggest screen you can find.

If you are a casual moviegoer, you could do a lot worse than seeing Ultron and will no doubt find yourself having a lot of fun with these modern day versions of mythical heroes trying to save the world.

The Skeleton Twins; Real Family Comedy

Here is our first movie review by our movie Dude, the Toth. Enjoy it –

“The dog dies at the end?!” Bill Hader responds in mock anger to Kristen Wiig’s accidental give away to the ending of the book Marley and Me. The two former Saturday Night Live alumni star in the new comedy/drama, The Skeleton Twins, about two siblings who are forced to re-examine their lives after they are thrown back together over the period of a few weeks.

The film is often dark and starts out with a suicide attempt that sets up the reunion between the siblings. Bill Hader plays Kristen Wiig’s gay brother Milo who seems to be having one emotional crisis after the other. It turns out Wiig’s character Maggie’s life isn’t that great either even though she is married to easy going Lance played by Luke Wilson.

The Skeleton Twins is a film that has some big laughs that are very well balanced with dramatic moments. It is about relationships and all the positive and negative consequences of being in any kind of relationship. The greatest accomplishment of the film is that both comedic and dramatic moments feel well earned and sincere.

The movie’s secret weapon is the chemistry between Bill Hader and Kristen Wiig. These two worked for years together on an ensemble sketch show and were at the top of their game when they left the show.

They have been on the big screen before in 2009’s Adventureland starring Jesse Eisenberg and Kristen Stewart. They played a married couple who run the Playland style amusement park Adventureland.

The chemistry in that film was great, but in this film it is flat out amazing. They really do feel like they could be brother and sister. The way that they can convey getting under each other’s skin is incredible to watch. It is also this great chemistry that makes one of the best scenes in the film work so well. I will not give it away but it does involve lip synching. A scene like this would not work unless the audience feels the connection between the two people in the scene. It works perfectly because of all the time that these two actor/comedians have spent together professionally.

Of course, I don’t want to sell the performances, writing, or direction short. This is a well made little film and the director’s choices are spot on, but I will again reiterate that casting the two leads as brother and sisters was a major coup.

I have liked Bill Hader and Kristen Wiig in other roles before. Wiig was great in the movie Bridesmaids, and Hader had an amazingly funny cameo as Jason Segel’s married friend in Forgetting Sarah Marshall.

However, in The Skeleton Twins they take their performances to the next level.  The movie was filmed over 22 days (which also means there was an amazing editor on board with this crew) and while there was a great script, improvisation was encouraged by the director.

I can easily imagine the two leads having a hell of a good time making this film and interacting with the rest of the great cast which also includes Ty Burrell from Modern Family in a surprisingly powerful performance.

Writer/director Craig Johnson, along with writing partner Mark Heyman deserve a lot of credit for the excellent script and great direction. By assembling a great cast and writing a great story, the team behind this movie has created one of the best surprises of 2014.

More people should check this movie out because it is a special film that will pleasantly surprise a lot of people. I would rate it 4.5/5 stars. Highly recommended! Available On Demand, download, and disc.